My dad always had these, I don't think he ever replaced them, but I always wanted his, they looked new after I watched him all sorts of work in them, and then wear them to church. He'd put the liner in when it got cold in Colorado, and these were all he'd ever wear. So I now have owned a pair a little over a month th, her I las vegas we've had snow and pretty cold temperatures for Vegas, these gloves were just in time, and I see why my dad had these. Not sure if these are the brand pops had, can't speak on durability just yet, but so far, I've done some workouts, work, yard work and some moving and with the liner, my hands aren't cold, they're protected, and other than breaking in the leather, they feel great. Highly recommended. Not for the arctic, not phone compatible. Get a bigger size if you plan to put in liners
Rating: [5 of 5 Stars!]